Charlie Kirk and Gavin Newsom: An Unlikely Dialogue
A Podcast Debut with Controversial Admission
Charlie Kirk made headlines as the inaugural guest on Gavin Newsom’s podcast, where he successfully prompted the California Governor to acknowledge that allowing boys to compete against girls in women’s sports is unfair. Kirk, known for his on-point and substantive approach, took the opportunity to challenge Newsom directly on pressing issues, including gender politics in sports.
"It’s unfair to allow boys to compete against girls in girls’ sports," Newsom conceded during the conversation, a statement that resonates with recent polls showing 70% support among voters, even within traditionally Democratic circles.
The Skeptics’ Perspective
While many were pleased with Kirk’s performance, some observers, including prominent conservative voices, raised concerns about Kirk’s decision to engage with Newsom at all. One commentator suggested that Kirk was inadvertently aiding Newsom’s ambitions for 2028, arguing that exposure to conservative voices could help the Governor prepare for future political contests, particularly as he may face off against figures like JD Vance.
This commentator pointed out:
"He needs practice… the more times he sits across from Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, the better he will get at appealing to right-wing and independently minded voters."
A Different Take on the Encounter
Kirk, however, views the encounter through a contrasting lens. He argued that by debating Newsom, he was contributing to the exposure of the Governor’s shortcomings. Contrary to the belief that he was helping Newsom refine his political skills, Kirk posits that the podcast ultimately unveils the Governor’s inability to succeed in a Democratic primary:
"I think this podcast might be ending Gavin Newsom’s presidential ambitions."
Kirk noted the effectiveness of the dialogue, stating that the conversation resonated with a vast audience, exceeding 30 million consumers. He believes that it provided a platform for critical ideas to be disseminated, allowing many to question Newsom’s political stance.
Defining Engagement Strategies
While Kirk acknowledges the value of engaging with political opponents, he stressed the importance of being firm and challenging during discussions, rather than letting them devolve into mere friendly banter. He urged conservatives who might sit down with Newsom in the future to maintain a similar level of directness and scrutiny:
"Ask him direct policy questions. Why haven’t you acted on the trans issue you identified? Are you just doing this for clicks?"
Conclusion: A Call for Discussion
Kirk’s dialogue with Gavin Newsom raises crucial questions about the effectiveness of cross-party conversations in today’s polarized political landscape. Should conservative leaders consider similar engagements with Democrats, and if so, under what conditions?
We invite you, the readers, to share your thoughts in the comments below. Do you believe these discussions help or hinder political progress?
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Just heard the first couple of mins. "He doesn't deserve our help". How united are we by thinking this way. Imagine everyone thinking this way, just such a negative comment.
It is hilarious watching both sides whine about their “lead fighters” talking to the other side. Bill Maher got “charmed” as well. Let people talk and let our American brothers and sisters decide on their own. Not that hard.
I'm a Dem and I hope these conversations happen more often. The Democratic party needs to wake up and listen to what people are actually saying, instead of virtue signaling. Gavin was terrible, he didn't listing to anything Charlie said. Politics need to stop being a game with the two sides trying to "defeat" each other. The American people are more similar than they are different.
So keep an open mind Megyn. Gov. Newson is a solid if not excellent person in a debate. Of course you don't have to "help" him. How about the charm aka kissing ass that Megyn Kelly gives. Thanks for honesty re: no edit. He should know because he was there.
No Charlie you’re trying to justify what you did. Mumble all you want. YOU SHOULD NEVER ADVOCATE FOR THE DEVIL.
You, going to his show only lead me to believe that your values, principles, and ethics might have a price… 😢
Megyn is SOOOOO RIGHT!
Newsom knows that he has 4 years to change his public image CHARLIE, YOU ARE HELPING HIM TO FOOL PEOPLE? 😢 please don’t tarnish your credibility hosting this clown.
The right is a bit too conciliatory to the left, they have already started platforming Ana Kasparian, Cenk Ugyur and Gavin Newsom.
The left never do that, when they have power.
The lawfare and use of the security state against Donald Trump started during the Obama era.
They just took it a step further during the Trump administration and went completely rouge during the Biden administration.
And
Ever since that they have continued on that path. The collective left is a lot more dangerous than the collective right, which is just a fragments of individuals who have rallied behind a strong leader in Donald Trump.
Charlie thinks it’s “cool” to sit down with Gavin Newsom.
Charlie is not conservative.
I definitely got the feeling that Gavin was picking Charlie's brain for his own gain rather than just having a conversation.
He’s not getting much practice. He already talks to people on the right off camera, I’m pretty sure.
If Newsom can find a path to win the presidential nomination in the Democrat party after leading California into the abyss, that party and its voters are doubling down on stupid.
It was good to see right wing engaging with Newsom. Atleast it will help heal the polarised state, the citizens are in.
Wouldn’t that be great if this podcast took Newsom down? 👍
I live in California. I view Gavin Newsom as a cypher; he's someone who holds the position of Governor and does nothing to help the State. "Synthetic Fraud" is a good description for him.
Not helping him is like saying “don’t platform people” naw Megan not a good look
Megyn, you’re beautiful, smart & infinitely charming! I love your show, heard about you from Dave Smith, you didn’t disappoint… Two months later & you’re by far my BIGGEST celebrity crush! I’ll try to keep my simping to a respectable level. But I totally ❤️ you! 😊
I agree with Megyn. she's smarter on this. Dont help Gavin, its a trap. Youre wrong Charlie.
Rare weak take by Meg. Can’t play scared out here.
Megyn Kelly is just as fake ..she doesn't tell u brainwashed sheep that alot of trans do agree on this ..that trans shouldn't compete against Woman in sports..of course Megyn Botox will not tell u guys that ..because that would me como sense wich Megyn Botox want u guys to believe trans ppl don't have .. majority of trans do not believe that trans woman should compete against woman .. but Megyn Botox when are u finally talking about what Lemon said about your husband with being a part of the LGBTq community ..
Newsom is a pathological liar! Agree – stop giving him air time.
What the actual EFF???? Megyn is almost 60 YEARS OLD!!! HOW IS SHE STILL SO DAMN FINE????
I think conservatives are making a huge mistake going to that podcast
Gavin trying to come to the middle where he’ll lose his looney base.
I disagree with Charlie. Regardless of how eloquent he explained his reason.
As a CA liberal, agree with all of this. He’s a terrible governor and I highly fear him becoming the Dem nominee because people like his hair.
Charlie you shouldn’t give the greaseball the time of day.
Just look at the picture, Charlie has his arm around that LIAR. ????????????????
I’m done watching/listening to Charlie, fools do my life no good. Can you say “ unsubscribe “?
Charlie made Newsome look like a normal guy just with different opinions. Kirk was a complete tool for doing that. He’s become addicted to the spotlight.
Newsome ruined a beautiful city as mayor of San Francisco, he ruined California, a state people wanted to come to but now can’t wait to leave. Now Newsome wants to be President. Do I really need to tell you what he’s going to do to the USA? Newsome is a bad person and Charlie is a fool.
Why is Megyn Kelly showing weakness and fear??? You should believe that good will always conquer evil, right will always defeat wrong. Your main stream media mind is showing dear, and if you're a true patriot you should be encouraging more of this.
Why would you educate those aholes. Let them continue to be lost without a compass!🇺🇲
All you clowns saying dont give him practice….Newscum exposed himself by debating those on the right.
Exactly my point Megan. We should not teach him how to fight us next election.
Oh Charlie!!! Don’t play dumb! You are way too smart. It’s not even believable!